[Osaka - Kyoto - Kinosaki]

Hi Michael,

I learn another new thing today, thanks for clarifying: JR Pass <> 5-day Kansai WIDE Area Pass  

I'll be getting the 5-day Kansai WIDE Area Pass. Unreserved seat is fine, my group can walk direct to platform (track) and board for these trips:

a) Kyoto Station -> Express Kinosaki -> Kinosaki Onsen Station

b) Kinosaki Onsen Station -> Express Kounotori -> Osaka (Shin-Osaka)

c) Shin-Osaka -> Haruka -> Kansai Airport

Thanks again, you are very patient and helpful.

[Osaka - Kyoto - Kinosaki]

Hi Michael,

Appreciate your long reply and the info & weblinks. Here's my plan:

a) 25-Nov (Fri): Arrive in Kansai -> Kyoto : I'll online reserve the ICOCA + Haraku at 3,600 yen per person.

b) 28-Nov (Mon): Pickup the "5-day Kansai WIDE Area Pass"  8,500 yen (online reserve earlier) at Kyoto Station.

c) 29-Nov (Tue): Use the JR-Pass to travel to Kinosaki Onsen (Ltd. Exp): 11:25am - FREE!

d) 30-Nov (Wed): Use the JR-Pass to travel from Kinosaki Onsen to Osaka: 13:30  Ltd. Express Kounotori No. 16 (For Shin-Osaka)  - FREE!

e) 2-Dec (Fri): Use the JR-Pass to travel from Shin-Osaka/Tennoji to Kansai using the Haruka - FREE! This is possible, right ?

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*All Limited Express services (including seat reservations) are covered by the Japan Rail Pass.

 

Question:  With the JR Pass, do I still need to goto counter/machine to select tickets/seat ? Or I can go direct to the track to board the train ?

 

About the fare+seat, I think I start to understand Japan Rail ticketing, need to add both together, e.g. (refer pic) 3,350 + 1,730 = 5,080 yen

 

Again, thank you and have a nice day.

 

[Osaka - Kyoto - Kinosaki]

Hi,

I'll arrive on 25 Nov 2016 (Friday) morning at Kansai, and going to Kyoto directly.

29 Nov (Tue) will goto Kinosakionsen station.

30 Nov (Wed) from Kinosakionsen -> (Kyoto) -> Osaka

2-Dec (Fri) morning Osaka -> Kansai airport

I'm a bit confused with the JR Pass, please advise me on the ticket functionality:

a) Kansai - Kyoto : Haruka 1,600 yen

b) Kyoto - Kinosakionsen (Ltd. Exp): 11:25am Fare + Seat Unreserved = 2,590 + 1,730 = 4,320 yen

c) Kinosakionsen (Ltd. Exp) - Kyoto  - Osaka : 12:32pm Fare + Seat Unreserved = 3,670 + 1,730 = 5,400 yen

d) Osaka - Kansai : Haruka 1,100 yen

 

Questions:

1) Please correct me, if any of my research info is wrong :-) 

2) Is it a must to purchase ICOCA for the Haruka 1,600 yen (Kansai-Kyoto) ? Or can purchase Haruka only without ICOCA ?

3) Please explain or weblink some info on how the "fare + seat" works ? Do I need both in combo ?

4) If I purchase a "5-day Kansai WIDE Area Pass" to activate from 28-Nov until 2-Dec, do I still need to pay anything for (b), (c) and (d) above ?

e.g. do I still need to top-up and pay for "seat fare" ?

5) I welcome any better suggestions to utilise the JR Pass / ICOCA / or just purchase single-individual ticket for each travel ?

 

FYI, I'm trying to settle my inter-city transport first, before narrow down into local city tram/bus/subway transportation.

Thanks

Arigato Gozaimasu